Party Politics: Representation without Conversation?

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Party Politics: Representation without Conversation?

Postby Cate McCalley » Thu Jan 15, 2015 8:15 am

Party politics haven't changed in 200 years. We elect people to represent us, hoping that conversation we had that got our vote, will result in representation. Time after time it doesn't. Not because the people we elect don't begin their service with intentions of turning a deaf ear to our conversation. But because once elected, Party Politics drowns out our conversations.

The Internet is deemed the democratic ""Free Press" of the 21st Century. Forums such as PH, allow our political conversations to continue but do they actually influence our Representation? Do the people we elect, once elected, really hear our internet conversation? Their actions speak louder than their words.

What if an elected Representative was bound to vote as directed by his or her Constituency? What if that Constituency was made aware of every action their body of Reprentatives were about to act on? Not just the action itself, but what the action means to his or her Constituency? The Internet makes this possible. Particularly at the local level.

What if at the local level a forum such as PH, could form its own Net Party and elect it's own Representatives? And what if those elected were bound to vote as directed by the Constituency of the Party? Would this turn our conversation into Representation? I believe it could, especially at the local level.

In effect a "Net Party" has the capability to hack the current political system. It could turn back the clock making those elected accountable to their constituency. What do you think?


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Re: Party Politics: Representation without Conversation?

Postby GFunkMoneyDog » Thu Jan 15, 2015 8:36 am

The "Net Party" is a interesting concept. Their isn't a doubt in my mind that social media, blogs, and forums have a profound effect on elections. You can get instant information about candidates which increases participation in elections.

Do the people we elect, once elected, really hear our internet conversation? Their actions speak louder than their words.

One word! TahoeGate!

Many go in with good intentions, but once in office the sway of dirty money changes their minds. I have never taken a bribe, or payment to remove a topic. I have been threatened by lawyers over various things, but unless the topic is wrong I never back down.
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Re: Party Politics: Representation without Conversation?

Postby Legion » Thu Jan 15, 2015 10:34 am

The internet was a big factor in 2008.
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Re: Party Politics: Representation without Conversation?

Postby ScArEcRoW » Thu Jan 15, 2015 10:37 am

Interesting and thought provoking concept Cate.
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Re: Party Politics: Representation without Conversation?

Postby Legion » Thu Jan 15, 2015 12:21 pm

In effect a "Net Party" has the capability to hack the current political system. It could turn back the clock making those elected accountable to their constituency. What do you think?


I think your heart's in it Cate, but until lobbyist are outlawed and term limits set we are screwed.
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Re: Party Politics: Representation without Conversation?

Postby VoteMout » Thu Jan 15, 2015 3:52 pm

Wishful thinking Cate, but they are loyal to one thing and one thing only. That's the almighty dollar.
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Re: Party Politics: Representation without Conversation?

Postby GFunkMoneyDog » Thu Jan 15, 2015 4:52 pm

What if at the local level a forum such as PH, could form its own Net Party and elect it's own Representatives? And what if those elected were bound to vote as directed by the Constituency of the Party? Would this turn our conversation into Representation? I believe it could, especially at the local level.


It could work at a local level because everyone knows everyone.
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Re: Party Politics: Representation without Conversation?

Postby Angry Whiteguy » Thu Jan 15, 2015 5:57 pm

What do you want me to run for.??
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Re: Party Politics: Representation without Conversation?

Postby Demon Hunter » Thu Jan 15, 2015 8:42 pm

Cate, Cate. Cate your a real dreamer. I like your positive ideas, and your creative thinking process.
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Re: Party Politics: Representation without Conversation?

Postby Angry Whiteguy » Thu Jan 15, 2015 9:10 pm

Demon Hunter wrote:Cate, Cate. Cate your a real dreamer. I like your positive ideas, and your creative thinking process.

Karl Marx was a dreamer also...
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Re: Party Politics: Representation without Conversation?

Postby clark bailey » Thu Jan 15, 2015 10:23 pm

Angry Whiteguy wrote:
Demon Hunter wrote:Cate, Cate. Cate your a real dreamer. I like your positive ideas, and your creative thinking process.

Karl Marx was a dreamer also...



In the case of Marx and Engels that's more like a nightmare.
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Re: Party Politics: Representation without Conversation?

Postby Cate McCalley » Fri Jan 16, 2015 6:29 pm

I believe with all my heart, this would work at a local level. We need ideas on how to grow the network. To make the best of the democratic process, people really wanting to change the political landscape would have to commit to growing the "net party". Managing issues and vetting candidates is a big responsibility.

Let's face it computers are a huge part of everyone's life. Making them a voice for democracy is the best thing we can do to preserve it. I know there are lots of well informed concerned citizens right here on PH. It seems trying this would be worthwhile.


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Re: Party Politics: Representation without Conversation?

Postby Jasmine » Fri Jan 16, 2015 6:33 pm

Cate McCalley wrote:I believe with all my heart, this would work at a local level. We need ideas on how to grow the network. To make the best of the democratic process, people really wanting to change the political landscape would have to commit to growing the "net party". Managing issues and vetting candidates is a big responsibility.

Let's face it computers are a huge part of everyone's life. Making them a voice for democracy is the best thing we can do to preserve it. I know there are lots of well informed concerned citizens right here on PH. It seems trying this would be worthwhile.


You said it. The Playhouse has been around for years. I know a lot of people who read it to find out what is really going on.
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Re: Party Politics: Representation without Conversation?

Postby Angry Whiteguy » Fri Jan 16, 2015 10:15 pm

Two party system versus the one party system.?? Hmmmm........ Hasn't this been tried somewhere before.??
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Re: Party Politics: Representation without Conversation?

Postby Cate McCalley » Sat Jan 17, 2015 7:19 am

Angry Whiteguy wrote:Two party system versus the one party system.?? Hmmmm........ Hasn't this been tried somewhere before.??


Who, except you, has said anything about a one Party System? Democracy includes all established Party's including The Green Party, The Independent Party, The Socialist Party, etc. Why not a Net Party?

We all understand how the system works, in that the major Party's have a lock on the Primary vote. I don't see anything wrong with a proposed "Net Party" local candidate running on one of the major Party's national platforms. The difference would be that an established local "Net Party" candidate would be obligated to answer to locals first, and Nationals second. In other words, they would act independently of their established Party platforms in answering to local constituency directives.


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