KFTC Meet The Candidate in Harlan

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Re: KFTC Meet The Candidate in Harlan

Postby Angry Whiteguy » Sun Jan 31, 2016 2:24 pm

Cate McCalley wrote:
Gurt B Frobe wrote:Cate's reads too many Sierra Club news letters. She'd believe those idiots long before she believes someone who has done the work.


This is strange. I post a link with photo's of mountain top removal (that Whiteguy proclaims doesn't exist), an you respond with some nonsense about believing someone that has 'done the work'. What work? The removal of mountain tops to uncover and extract coal seams?

This issue has nothing to do with anything but the destruction of mountain terrains and their biodiversity. I understand people need and want to work, and coal has provided that work for more than a century. During this time people dependent on that work went through times of booms and bust. Politically persuaded to focus on making it from one bust to the next, nothing else.

Late in the last century, a tax was imposed that if managed correctly, would have prepared comunnities for he eventual loss of their means to a living. It wasn't managed correctly. It went to elect polititians committed to build all parts of the state, except where it was intended and needed most, the mountains. Unfortunately, mountain people are living with the consequences of letting charlatan politicians rob them from day one. Denying this fact and the damage the myopic pursuit of making a living all cost, ignoring politics that would have changed that course is what brought the mountain communities to where they are today.

I don't believe doing the same thing over and over while expecting a different is anything but insane.

No you didn't prove anything other than you are scum and will tell any lie necessary to satisfy your own agenda... Those photos (which I didn't look at) are manipulated to show the worst possible scenario... You know it and I know it, only difference is you don't mind purporting a lie...
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Re: KFTC Meet The Candidate in Harlan

Postby Angry Whiteguy » Sun Jan 31, 2016 2:30 pm


This is strange. I post a link with photo's of mountain top removal (that Whiteguy proclaims doesn't exist), an you respond with some nonsense about believing someone that has 'done the work'. What work? The removal of mountain tops to uncover and extract coal seams?

This issue has nothing to do with anything but the destruction of mountain terrains and their biodiversity. I understand people need and want to work, and coal has provided that work for more than a century. During this time people dependent on that work went through times of booms and bust. Politically persuaded to focus on making it from one bust to the next, nothing else.

Late in the last century, a tax was imposed that if managed correctly, would have prepared comunnities for he eventual loss of their means to a living. It wasn't managed correctly. It went to elect polititians committed to build all parts of the state, except where it was intended and needed most, the mountains. Unfortunately, mountain people are living with the consequences of letting charlatan politicians rob them from day one. Denying this fact and the damage the myopic pursuit of making a living all cost, ignoring politics that would have changed that course is what brought the mountain communities to where they are today.

I don't believe doing the same thing over and over while expecting a different is anything but insane.



People working in coal, dumby. Something you know nothing about because if you did you wouldn't be making such dumbass statements. All your succeeding in doing spewing your rhetoric is giving a lot of people something to laugh about.


Yes 'people working in coal'. An industry that my family of four generations has worked in. Both underground and surface miners. Some extracting coal from the land they owned that didn't sell their mineral rights, others that worked for companies that did own their mineral rights given to them by the Broad Form Deed.

Refusing to acknowledge the truth of the matter of exactly what the election and re-election of charlatan politicians controlled by the coal industry, has done to the demise of the mountains and it's people isn't laughable, it's pitiful.

You've read too many of them hell in Harlan fiction books and danced around to you'll never leave Harlan alive... Come out into the real world, where four generations of your ancestors were welfare recipients, just as you followed in their footsteps...
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Re: KFTC Meet The Candidate in Harlan

Postby Cate McCalley » Sun Jan 31, 2016 2:59 pm

Whiteguy, which do you think profits most from food stamps? The people that receive them or the merchants that cash them?


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Re: KFTC Meet The Candidate in Harlan

Postby Demon Hunter » Sun Jan 31, 2016 6:52 pm

Cate McCalley wrote:Whiteguy, which do you think profits most from food stamps? The people that receive them or the merchants that cash them?


Who's the biggest loser? Tax Payers!
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Re: KFTC Meet The Candidate in Harlan

Postby Angry Whiteguy » Sun Jan 31, 2016 8:34 pm

Cate McCalley wrote:Whiteguy, which do you think profits most from food stamps? The people that receive them or the merchants that cash them?

I know who the loser is in that situation... I'm sure the most money is made by the people that buy them for fitty cent on the dollar, but the is the chance that the seller will OD and die... That's always a good thing...
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Re: KFTC Meet The Candidate in Harlan

Postby GFunkMoneyDog » Mon Feb 01, 2016 8:46 am

Angry Whiteguy wrote:
Cate McCalley wrote:Whiteguy, which do you think profits most from food stamps? The people that receive them or the merchants that cash them?

I know who the loser is in that situation... I'm sure the most money is made by the people that buy them for fitty cent on the dollar, but the is the chance that the seller will OD and die... That's always a good thing...


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Re: KFTC Meet The Candidate in Harlan

Postby Cate McCalley » Mon Feb 01, 2016 10:24 am

GFunkMoneyDog wrote:
Angry Whiteguy wrote:
Cate McCalley wrote:Whiteguy, which do you think profits most from food stamps? The people that receive them or the merchants that cash them?


I know who the loser is in that situation... I'm sure the most money is made by the people that buy them for fitty cent on the dollar, but the is the chance that the seller will OD and die... That's always a good thing...


He is a glass half full kinda guy. He always manages to find the silver lining.


The sell of black market food stamps isn't limited to the 'pop train'. Individuals buy them for half price as well. The seller needs items, like soap powders and other sundries food stamps can't buy.

None of this matters when you think of the actual value of what is available for purchase with food stamps. Less than half of every food stamp dollar goes for the actual production of food (the farm & labor value). The rest goes for marketing expense (packaging, transportation, energy, profits, advertising, depreciation, rent, interest, repairs, business and other taxes). The truth is food stamps falsely prop up the U.S. economy via this marketing expense.

Eliminating this marketing expense with a direct delivery of agricultural farm products to the needy would have a very negative effect on subsidized government food retailers. Not a bad thing when you realize multinational oligarths like Walmart (that do not provide a living wage) would have to compete in a fair market to retail their sales. Oops! I forgot oligarths don't become oligarths by competing fairly. They need government assistance to eliminate competition. And they are getting plenty of that!

When the U.S. delivers food to third world countries there is no marketing expense. It delivers commodies directly. Like what the U.S.D.A used to do for the needy in this country. Anybody remember 'gov'mt cheese'? Anybody know why it isn't available anymore?


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Re: KFTC Meet The Candidate in Harlan

Postby upallnight » Mon Feb 01, 2016 4:13 pm

We need to go back to the age of powered milk, powered eggs, government cheese, and peanut butter.
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Re: KFTC Meet The Candidate in Harlan

Postby Briscoe » Mon Feb 01, 2016 4:24 pm

upallnight wrote:We need to go back to the age of powered milk, powered eggs, government cheese, and peanut butter.

they probably already have power milk and power aid and such... oh, you meant powdered. lol
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Re: KFTC Meet The Candidate in Harlan

Postby goat47 » Mon Feb 01, 2016 8:39 pm

The KFTC are asshole deep at Southeasy. Have your child take as many online classes as possible.
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Re: KFTC Meet The Candidate in Harlan

Postby Cate McCalley » Mon Feb 01, 2016 10:50 pm

goat47 wrote:The KFTC are asshole deep at Southeasy. Have your child take as many online classes as possible.


I'm having trouble understanding why the fear of KFTC. Tell me goat, what's so scary about a pro-democracy organization advocating a just society, committed to equality and non-violent change?


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Re: KFTC Meet The Candidate in Harlan

Postby upallnight » Tue Feb 02, 2016 10:04 am

Kentuckians For The Commonwealth, Also known as, Tree Molesters, Eco Nazis, Hippie Communists, are the most hypocritical group I have ever had the misfortune to have any dealings with.
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Re: KFTC Meet The Candidate in Harlan

Postby ScArEcRoW » Wed Feb 03, 2016 10:46 am

The sell of black market food stamps isn't limited to the 'pop train'. Individuals buy them for half price as well. The seller needs items, like soap powders and other sundries food stamps can't buy.

None of this matters when you think of the actual value of what is available for purchase with food stamps. Less than half of every food stamp dollar goes for the actual production of food (the farm & labor value). The rest goes for marketing expense (packaging, transportation, energy, profits, advertising, depreciation, rent, interest, repairs, business and other taxes). The truth is food stamps falsely prop up the U.S. economy via this marketing expense.




By George Cate I believe your right when you factor in that $46,000,000 are on foodstamps which is a record, and for a 38 months straight which is another record.
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Re: KFTC Meet The Candidate in Harlan

Postby Gunslinger » Wed Feb 03, 2016 3:23 pm

Cate McCalley wrote:
goat47 wrote:The KFTC are asshole deep at Southeasy. Have your child take as many online classes as possible.


I'm having trouble understanding why the fear of KFTC. Tell me goat, what's so scary about a pro-democracy organization advocating a just society, committed to equality and non-violent change?


They hate anything they don't understand.
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Re: KFTC Meet The Candidate in Harlan

Postby Briscoe » Wed Feb 03, 2016 3:44 pm

Gunslinger wrote:
Cate McCalley wrote:
goat47 wrote:The KFTC are asshole deep at Southeasy. Have your child take as many online classes as possible.


I'm having trouble understanding why the fear of KFTC. Tell me goat, what's so scary about a pro-democracy organization advocating a just society, committed to equality and non-violent change?


They hate anything they don't understand.

but we do understand this shit, we just don't like it. it's you that can't see my friend. lol
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